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Yukon Summer Poll Part IV - The Incumbents - Who are the Winners & Losers?

2005/10/19 - We present the final chapter of our Summer Yukon survey:  an analysis of each of the 18 Electoral Districts and their 73 Polling Divisions.  TrendLines today reveals who Yukoners presently want to hold those Ridings... or don't want!  There will be many surprises and some status quo...  ok here they are:

   

Copperbelt 

As mentioned above, new Liberal leader Arthur Mitchell is out to an early lead.  Winning his seat is critical beyond doubt.  Mitchell must get into the Legislature for the Autumn Question Period and strut his stuff.  If he fails to win Copperbelt or wins but falters in the Leg, the demise of the Liberal Party going into the General Election is upon him.  That Party can ill afford another Leadership contest.  But should that be in the cards, it would seem that a couple of Yukon women are ready and able to take the reins. 

This Riding is winnable by anyone.  Our polling and the comments showed us that Copperbelt residents are not angry at Haakon Arntzen.  They feel that his situation was manipulated and politicized.  What he did was wrong.  Very wrong.  But more than once it was brought to our attention that while he was flirting with a youngster 30 years ago, Dennis Fentie was trafficking heroin in Edmonton.  Growing numbers are finding some irony here.  Should we look at these gentlemen in perspective and ask ourselves if the right one did the right thing and resigned?  That aside, there are alotta Yukon Party supporters in Copperbelt and they have a chance in November of electing a sitting member of the Gov't and the perks and privileges that comes with that action as compared to having an MLA that is a member of the Opposition.

On the other hand, should they go with Maureen Stephens, Copperbelters could be electing a future member of the governing NDP, should that Party go on to win the General Election that must be called by November 2006.  Todd Hardy would go into the writ period with 6 of the 7, 8 or 9 that could earn him a Minority Gov't;  10 gives him a very long mandate as the new Premier.  She was one of the loudest of the Arntzen critics this summer.  Will her adopted Copperbelt forgive a now apparent agenda?

By-Elections are often ho-hum.  This one could dictate the future fate of the Yukon !!

OK, we ate the big frog first.  And we will update the graph as the By-Election nears.  In the meantime, here's the results from the other 17 Ridings.  They will be updated every few days as we tabulate new calls from late September & October...

Klondike 

Across the Yukon, Peter Jenkins may have alotta folks ticked off at him due to the Gov't Loan default, but they sure luv him up in Dawson.  A typical opinion up there was "He's an idiot ... but he's the best we've got."  Yukoners want and deserve to hear all three sides of the Loan issue story and why it's allowed to go on & on ad nauseum...

 

Kluane 

Can anyone spell "horserace"?  We don't know who the dark horse is for the Liberals, but he or she got up there pretty quick.

Lake Laberge 

Brad Cathers enjoys a good rapport with his constituents.  Lotsa good comments.  If by the grace of god the Yukon Party squeaks in next year, he's sure to be in the Cabinet in the next mandate.  Frank Turner is occupied at the moment in a Petition dealing with Electoral Reform.  Is this a soapbox that leads to elected office aspirations?

McIntyre-Takhini 

"Oh John."  They luv ya in your Riding but they say u are with the wrong party??!  In short, Mr Edzerza is very popular but there is much antagonism towards the Yukon Party that may prevent his re-election.

Mayo-Tatchun 

Let's just have an acclamation in this Riding!  Eric Fairclough has no identifiable competition.

Mount Lorne 

Steve Cardiff is publicly very visible and has good support.

Pelly-Nisutlin 

Dean Hassard has good support and is deemed safe in his quest for re-election.

Porter Creek Centre 

Archie Lang has to do some good campaigning to get back in the lead next year.

 

Porter Creek North 

Jim Kenyon:  Ahem... what were u thinkin' when u closed your vet clinic last month?

Porter Creek South 

Pat Duncan adds grace and class to a Question Period that has little decorum.  She is a career politician that raises the bar in the Yukon.   The Yukon desperately needs her "value add".  Will somebody please give her a hand?  We need her back.

 

Riverdale North 

The problem of having the honour of being Leg Speaker is that u can become "unnoticed" tho he is the glue that bonds that place together.  This gentleman, Ted Staffen, should not be a casualty in the current turf war.

 

Riverdale South 

19% ?  That means not even all Glenn Hart's family voted for him.  Whoa.

Southern Lakes 

Patrick Rouble seems to be one of those fella's that one luvs or hates.  We'll have to see how this Riding pans out when the present phantom candidates get some names attached to them.  This Riding is ripe for change albeit a Yukon Party stronghold.

Vuntut Gwitchin 

It costs too much to fly a Returning Officer up to Old Crow.  If Lorraine Peter wants to run again, let's just give it to her.

Watson Lake 

No wonder he's cocky.  Of all 18, Nobody has a bigger lead in their Riding.

Whitehorse Centre 

Todd Hardy stayed in the public limelight all summer.  Is that helping or hurting him?  Vicki has been busy with The Yukon's newest magazine and thus has not announced her 2006 intentions.  Yet apparently, with the absence of an Indep't at this point, she's already in the race!  This could be interesting and it has the potential to dramatically change the Leg' dynamics.  Doesn't anyone in this Riding know he's supposed to be the next Premier?

Whitehorse West 

We will call this graph the status quo one;  just a bunch of straight lines means Elaine Taylor is headed back to the Leg' and that bodes well for The Yukon's Tourism.


Well that's the 18.  And includes our complete results of July & August.  But this is only the beginning.  Over the next few days we will go thru the same 18 and add in some late September polling, starting with Copperbelt... 'cuz of the By-Election.  This will indeed give us good "trendlines" in each Riding.  Come back often and tell your friends, eh!!

 

The Press Release (2005/10/18):

TrendLines Poll:  The Incumbents - Who are the Winners & Losers?

Judas Creek, YT "By-Elections are often ho-hum.  But this one could set events in motion that will dictate the future fate of the Yukon!!" says Freddy Hutter, political analyst with TrendLines, a new Yukon polling firm that has surveyed 504 voters over the past few weeks.  He continues... "Arthur Mitchell has increased his early lead in Copperbelt.  Polling from late last month shows that the new Liberal Leader has widened his margin since Maureen Stephens announced her candidacy and both seem to be leaving the yet to be nominated Yukon Party hopeful in the dust.

 
"For Arthur Mitchell, winning his seat is critical beyond doubt.  Mitchell must get into the Legislature for the Autumn Question Period and strut his stuff.  If he fails to win Copperbelt or wins but falters in the Leg', the demise of the Liberal Party going into the General Election is upon him.  That Party can ill afford another Leadership contest."
  In polling that took place July 23-Sept 30th, the Liberals have 46% support, the NDP 33% and the Yukon Party 21% in this District race.  This result is parsed from an ongoing Yukon-wide survey gauging Party support in all of the 18 Electoral Districts and includes 504 voters to date.  "This is the largest ever political sampling attempt in the Yukon and the results will be quite insightful on a variety of current political topics."

"Copperbelt Electoral District has been the center of attention for a long time.  Copperbelters are likely weary of waiting for the other shoes to drop in the drawn out controversy.  We had the Haakon Arntzen charges.  Then his resignation from the Yukon Party caucus to sit as an Independent MLA in the Yukon Legislature.  The Trial.  The Conviction.  Firing the Lawyer.  The Protests.  The Sentencing.  And now the Appeal and eventual By-Election call."

Commenting on the results, voter feedback and his personal opinion of the Copperbelt situation, Hutter elaborated that "There are very few jurisdictions where a mere criminal conviction is grounds for ousting an MLA or MP in Canada.  The acid test would seem to be whether the subsequent sentencing would impede that individual from his legislative duties.  In that regard, Premier Fentie was fully justified in awaiting the September sentencing date before allowing any proceedings initiated by the Opposition that would have led to the MLA's removal.  In the end, Arntzen likely saw his Resignation as a political reality more so than as an obligation, but the surprise House Arrest condition nailed this one shut.  In my opinion, he brought that one on by himself by pissing off the Judge and postponing his Resignation by one day to hear the Sentence instead of proceeding with it on the original Sentence Day.  All of us in the Courtroom were shocked to hear Arntzen's lawyer make the postponement declaration.  Everyone's eyes just rolled and u could see by the Judge's body language that he was not at all impressed with those theatrics."
  

"This Riding is currently winnable by anyone.  Our polling and the comments showed us that Copperbelt residents are not angry at Haakon Arntzen.  In fact, they feel that his situation was manipulated and politicized.  What he did was wrong.  Very wrong.  But more than once it was brought to our attention that while he was flirting with youngsters 30 years ago, Dennis Fentie was trafficking heroin in Edmonton.  Growing numbers are finding some irony here.  Should these gentlemen be looked at in perspective, one might ask if it is the right one that did the honourable thing and resigned?  That aside, there are alotta Yukon Party supporters in Copperbelt and they have a chance in November of electing a sitting member of the Gov't and the perks and privileges that comes with that action as compared to having an MLA that is a member of the Opposition."

"On the other hand, should they go with Maureen Stephens, Copperbelters could be electing a future member of the governing NDP, should that Party go on to win the General Election that must be called by November 2006.  Todd Hardy would go into the writ period with 6 of the 7, 8 or 9 seats that could earn him a Minority Gov't;  And 10 would give him a Majority and a very long mandate as the new Premier.
  Maureen was one of the loudest of the Arntzen critics this summer.  Will her adopted Copperbelt forgive a now apparent agenda?"

"With respect to the Premier taking his sweet time in calling a By-Election, it is my humble opinion that any political leader would do the same.  There are protocols to observe in the Nomination process.  That the NDP chose to shortcut those is now evident in the fact that Ms Stephens had no viable opposition.  The vote was 17-3-3.  The Copperbelt Riding Assoc for Yukon Party could be at some fault in not scheduling a Nomination after the Arntzen conviction, but a conditional sentence seemed imminent and that would have allowed Arntzen the opportunity to continue as MLA with little fear of dismissal provided he resumed a conventional routine."

"It is an unforgivable disgrace that the Premier called the Autumn sitting early to prevent a potential Opposition member from maximum time in the Legislature.  There is absolutely no pressing issue that requires Fentie to open Question Period in October albeit convention may dictate that course.  The citizens in Copperbelt have been thru much turmoil in 2004 and 2005 and allowing them a sitting member in December is the honourable thing to do.  The Premier is showing himself to be plainly a political Opportunist.  Unfortunately, in 2006 it will be Yukoners determining Dennis Fentie's fate rather than vice versa.  There were many chasing the wrong rabbit on this issue.  The vocal demands should have been for a postponement of the Fall Sitting ... not a hurry-up of the By-Election."

"Dennis Fentie cannot afford to be cocky and political on this matter.  He must remember that in essence he holds his positions of MLA & Premier in a caretaker role.  In 2002, he misled the Media and the voters by giving Yukoners the impression that he was just a hicktown pothead selling grass to his friends.  In reality, we found "when we checked him out" that he was part of a heroin trafficking ring in Edmonton.  As far as the voters are concerned, Dennis Fentie is still on probation and being monitored for his contrition of that misrepresentation.  If by his actions he shows Yukoners that there is a pattern to his Opportunism, i.e. for his personal gain... the price may be the withdrawal of his right to govern in 2006."

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The TrendLines survey goes on to forecast that had there been a Territorial Election this past month, Premier Dennis Fentie would have retained his own Watson Lake riding but going down to defeat would have been 4 Cabinet Ministers:  John Edzerza, Jim Kenyon, Archie Lang & Glenn Hart.  It seems significant that the voters are in the mood to toss only Yukon Party Incumbents, none from the Liberal Party or NDP.  Rounding out the six electable challenged MLA's are Patrick Rouble of Southern Lakes Electoral District and Ted Staffen of Riverdale North, Speaker of the Legislature.  Only 6% of the Respondents were Undecided in this survey, the first done in the Yukon by TrendLines, recently relocated to the Yukon from the Sea-to-Sky Corridor near Whistler. 
A Territorial Election must be called by November 2006.  The poll indicates that the NDP would have formed a Minority Gov't with 9 MLA's, while the Yukon Party would have only elected five and the Liberals would have increased their fortune to four.  All the present NDP Incumbents would have been re-elected, as would have Pat Duncan for the Liberal Party.  Returning Yukon Party Incumbents would have included ex-Premier Fentie, Peter Jenkins. Elaine Taylor, Dean Hassard and Brad Cathers.


 

"It is important for Yukon Party members and supporters to look at this view of the future and analyze what is going wrong.  And one should maybe ask "why these six?  Is there a message here?  I would say that the situation involves two factors.  The first is the obvious:  the electorate in those Ridings are not seeing or hearing enuf satisfactory activities by their MLA.  However, because these 6 MLA's are all from the Yukon Party and none are involved in any controversial issues, we have to consider that these gentlemen are perhaps all unfortunate casualties of dissatisfaction with the perceived performance and image of the Yukon Party Gov't. "

"There are folks out there that are angry about the handling of the M-I-A Copperbelt MLA Haakon Arntzen;  and the handling of the defaulted Business Development Fund Loan by Klondike MLA and Cabinet Minister Peter Jenkins; and the deception during the 2002 Election of his actually trafficking heroin rather than marijuana by Watson Lake MLA & Premier, Dennis Fentie.  Still others are upset over the issues of the Carmacks school;  the protection of the Caribou calving grounds;  the Reindeer controversy;  the Watson Lake pharmacy;  the veterinary school;  Whitehorse subdivision approvals;  land lotteries;  and so it goes, on and on.  These voters are Yukon wide and are not for the most part angry at their own MLA, but by intending to vote for the other two parties, they are sending a certain and clear message to the Party and the Premier."


"Thus we find that there is no single issue bringing on the Party's defeat at this point.  It is, rather, an incremental death by a thousand nicks.  But does that make the resurrection by By-election or General Election time more difficult or easier?  Is there anything the Party or the Premier can do between now and the Election to reverse that overwhelming sentiment?  Could a dynamite Election platform snatch victory away from the NDP during the four weeks of an Election campaign?  On one hand, it must be remembered that four months before the 2002 Election, the Yukon Party was at 23% according to a DataPath poll.  In the intervening period and upon presentation of their planks, they rose to the occasion and achieved 40% popularity by Election Day.  But, on the other hand, momentum seems to be on the side of the NDP this time around."
  According to Hutter, "Despite the potential loss of six Ridings, the Yukon Party continues to hold the lead in popular opinion with 35% overall support across the Territory; the NDP follow with 34% and the Liberals hold 29% of decided voters while a mere 1% desire as yet undeclared Independent candidates."  Compared to the last election, and adjusting for the Independent component, this represents a loss of 6% for the Yukon Party, a loss of 1% for the Liberal Party and a net gain of 7% by the NDP.  "Concentration of support is more important than the overall numbers" cautioned Hutter.  "As a number cruncher, i must remind all that in the 2002 Election, the NDP were two per cent behind the Liberals in total votes cast on Election Day but in the end attained four more seats!"

The greatest plurality in any one Riding is had by Premier Dennis Fentie in Watson Lake where he captured 75% of decided voters.  Substantial leads are held by Eric Fairclough with 69%in Mayo-Tatchun and both Peter Jenkins of Klondike and Dean Hassard of Pelly-Nisutlin have 58% support.  Most threatened Incumbents at this point are Glenn Hart of Riverdale South with only 19% and Jim Kenyon in Porter Creek North with 23%.  John Edzerza in McIntyre-Takhini & Archie Lang in Porter Creek North are both vulnerable at 33% popular support levels.  In 2002, Gary McRobb had highest individual support with 65% in Kluane.

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The TrendLines poll also shows that things are looking very positive for Liberal incumbent Larry Bagnell.  His poll shows that exactly 50% of Yukoners support Bagnell compared to 24% for the Conservatives and 24% of decided popular opinion for the NDP.  Neither of the latter parties have nominated candidates in place at this time.  The "others" category trails with 2%.  Hutter commented  "It is apparent from Larry's Summer Report distributed last month that he is distancing himself from the Liberal Party of Canada.  On examination, the word "Liberal" and Liberal Logo are nowhere to be seen.  We noticed in Respondents' comments that he is definitely more popular than his Party for sure.  If Bagnell loses, it will be due to the unpopularity of Paul Martin and the Gomery Inquiry disclosures of Party corruption, not due to anything disliked about Larry or his record.  This is very clear."
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Another part of the survey has figures illustrating that 18% of Yukoners would be in favour of Seceding from Canada if BC & Alberta would vote to Separate from Canada.  Hutter found that the hot spots for Secession were communities with strong Conservative and likely former Reform Party ties.  Growing fatigue with Ottawa has bred active Separatist Parties in BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan & Manitoba.

It reported these highlights:  Almost one of five Yukoners favours Separation from Canada, should the Western Provinces decide in the future to go it alone. 
In the first survey of its kind in the Territory, it was shown that 18% of Yukoners support joining with BC & Alberta should those Provinces decide to secede from Canada.  This follows on the heels of a simultaneous poll in the four western provinces where support for Secession talks ranges from 42% - 28%.  Whereas the Western Standard poll asked a softer question with respect to "opening discussions" on Separation, the TrendLines poll was more direct and asked 456 Yukon residents if they favour outright Secession from Canada in an alliance with Alberta & BC.

Our hot spots for western alienation from Ottawa are the Southern Lakes Electoral District where almost four in ten (38%) voted in favour, followed by about one in four in Klondike (29%), Watson Lake (27%), Whitehorse Centre (25%), Kluane & Vuntut Gwitchin (24%) and one in five in Whitehorse West (20%).

Federalism is highest in Riverdale South where the support for Secession was only one in 25 (4%), followed by Pelly-Nisutlin (9%), Porter Creek North (11%), Porter Creek South, Riverdale North & McIntyre-Takhini (13%), Mount Lorne & Lake Laberge (17%), Mayo-Tatchun & Porter Creek Centre (18%) and Copperbelt (19%).

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Based on the 504 Yukoners that were randomly selected from the 73 Polling Divisions of the 18 Electoral Districts, this scientific survey was conducted from July 23-Sept 30 2005 and has a margin of error of 4.3% on the Secession Poll (incl 2% Undecided), the Federal Yukon Riding Poll (9% Undecided) & the YTG Popular Opinion Poll (7% Undecided) and 19% avg for each of the 18 individual YTG Electoral Districts (overall 7% Undecided) used in the Yukon Riding Projections, 19 times in 20.  TrendLines, active in economic and political affairs since 1989, is renowned for its Federal Riding Projection that illustrates how many MP's each Party is likely to win if a Canadian General Election were called.  Commentary and a variety of other polls and graphs on a variety of subjects are available at the firm's website, www.TrendLines.ca and Hutter may be contacted via graphs@TrendLines.ca for questions, comments or to contract their varied consultive services.
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As background profile, Freddy Hutter of TrendLines has been active in politics since watching the Trudeau leadership bid in 1968 and his Poli-Sci days at Univ of Waterloo where he says socialism thrived.  Due to his political savvy and pulse on public opinion, he has in the past accepted invitations Outside to act as a resource person and Board of Director for the NDP, Liberal, Reform and Reform-Ontario Parties.  That tradition continues and Hutter has been welcomed as a Director to several Societies as well as the Conservative and Yukon Parties since his arrival last November.  When not in election mode, his career has included research in the fields of global climate change with respect to long term solar cycles and a unique presentation on the depletion of global oil reserves.  He does real estate analysis, real estate and business financing, economic analysis, web design, and as a small business coach, is a casual instructor of Entrepreneurship for First Nations at Yukon College.  His phone canvasser and soul mate is a former Solidarity activist, Evalina Zamana, now a proud Canadian Citizen and a financial planner with a specialty in Registered Education Savings Plans (RESP's).  They moved to Judas Creek with their Hungarian sheep dog, a Kuvasz named Topaz, from the BC's Sea-to-Sky Corridor.  Hutter hails from Kitchener-Waterloo and Woodstock while Zamana's hometown is Bialystok, Poland. 
Copyright 2005.

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Freddy Hutter, Analyst
TrendLines
867.660.5533
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PO Box 45, Tagish YT  Y0B1T0
graphs@TrendLines.ca

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Our survey is now complete.  We heartily thank all those who participated.  The margin of error is 4.3% on the Secession Poll (2% Undecided), the Federal Yukon Riding Poll (9% Undecided) & the YTG Popular Opinion Poll (6% Undecided) and 19% MoE for each of the individual YTG Electoral Districts, 19 times in 20, as they say.  The base scientific, random phone survey of the 73 Polling Divisions within the Yukon's 18 Electoral Districts commenced July 23rd 2005, concluded Sept 30th and includes feedback from over 504 Yukoners incl the Undecided.  The data used in rolling polls includes only calls that are less than 75 days old.

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